“June 9, 2010 — Mr. Holland (Ajax—Pickering) — That the Second Report of the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (recommendation not to proceed further with Bill C-391, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act (repeal of long-gun registry)), presented on Wednesday, June 9, 2010, be concurred in.
To be added to the business of the House, at the expiry of the time provided for Private Members’ Business, on a day fixed by the Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 97.1(2).
Designated day — Tuesday, September 21, 2010.
Debate — limited to 1 hour, pursuant to Standing Order 97.1(2).
Voting — not later than the expiry of the time provided for debate.”
There we have it, a showdown in the House. Can the Lieberals and others whip their members into killing this bill? In a minority government, it will take a substantial number of opposition MPs to support the bill.
We may have to suffer another winter of this stupidity.
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I don’t know what the answer to this problem of people running around with firearms shooting innocents. Have you watched HBO’s Polytecqunique……the phrase “guns don’t kill people….people kill people” is a load of crap!!! It is a catch phrase…people with guns kill people!!We wouldn’t be having this conversation otherwise!!! Additionally…I love your penguins
All kinds of things kill people. In Afghanistan improvised explosive devices are killing lots of people. There is no limit to the creativity of people to do harm.
There is no particular reason that a single person in a building could kill a dozen others. A firearm is of limited usefulness in a confined space. If the potential victims, by-standers and police had acted differently the loss of life would have been much less.
Legislation and restrictions on peaceful people do not prevent madness.
The issue isn’t the method or creativity with which people kill other people: The issue is providing an environment that precludes the need or the motivation to do so in the first place.
In many parts of the world this environment is found where there is a state of mutual deterrance. People don’t use guns to kill people when they know full well that their would-be victim has at least an equal amount of fire power pointing back in the would-be assailant’s direction. Suicide attacks are the notable exception here, but statistically speaking, firearms related assaults are inversely proportional to the percentage of armed citizens in a given area.
Kennesaw Georgia all but eliminated the high number of firearms related assaults seen in the 1960′s & 1970′s by requiring their citizens to own and where possible carry firearms.
And then there is the Swiss model of enforcing independent thought and economic action: A national standing reserve for over 400 years has kept them independent and peacefull for just as long.
Again, mutual deterrence works and it needs to enter the vocabulary of Canadians who wish to hold on to Canadiana.
Amazing, the Liberals at first didnt even want the the Gun Registry, they beefed it up long time ago when they were fighting Mulroney successor Kim Campbell (talk about onerous gun control). Kim was a total nutbar, the people are stupid, and her party was wiped out (I think they one one seat).
The gun registry turned into “One Huge Cast Cow” for the Liberals, 2 billion dollars of tax dollars , ( even Adscam “groupaction” , John Gomery called criminal) got a few million with no work)
So, I am torn between two issues, one – it was a huge “make work program for one hell of a lot of people” .. 2. Two billion dollar would bankrupt a small country. soI guess it had to end.
In the long run a policy not supported by the people will not endure. There is no rational basis for the registry and most people see it for what it was or could not care less about it. The only reason it persisted so long was the split on the PC/Reform side leaving the field to the Lieberals. As I write, the bill to revoke the registry has gone through committee and has been reported back to the House. Third Reading could pass any time and the Senate has promised to sit long before Christmas to pass as many bills as possible. I can see a comprehensive motion in the senate passing a bunch of bills late one night next week…
“C-19 — The Minister of Public Safety — An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act C-19 — Le ministre de la Sécurité publique — Loi modifiant le Code criminel et la Loi sur les armes à feu
Introduced and read the first time — October 25, 2011 Dépôt et première lecture — 25 octobre 2011
Debated at second reading — October 26, 27, 28 and November 1, 2011 Débat en deuxième lecture — 26, 27, 28 octobre et 1er novembre 2011
Time allocation at second reading stage — Notice — October 26, 2011; adopted — October 27, 2011 Attribution de temps à l’étape de la deuxième lecture — Avis — 26 octobre 2011; adoption — 27 octobre 2011
Read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security — November 1, 2011 Deuxième lecture et renvoi au Comité permanent de la sécurité publique et nationale — 1er novembre 2011
Reported without amendment (Sessional Paper No. 8510-411-24) — November 30, 2011″